“The genesis of it was the death of the 80s superman; you know, the death of the Terminator , which was the ultimate expression of masculinity at that time in action movies. The man had become so ridiculously masculine that he was metal. Then came John McClane , with Bruce Willis, an action hero who was a little bit flawed, who allowed us to see masculinity as imperfect, and that ultimately led to me and Nick being the lead in films. Or Seth Rogen.”
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